The New Year is fast approaching. I'd like the readers to post what they'd like to see happen in Brookneal in the coming year.
What would you most like to see happen?
And what would you like to see stop happening?
Friday, December 26, 2008
Happy Holidays to Brookneal
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I for one would love to see the town cleared of these run down buildings. They make the town appearance dismal and not very inviting for new business prospects. How can we attract new businesses when we look beat up and run down? Statistics may read that we are a poor population but we also have many folks who do have money to spend and may support businesses if they would just locate here. I love that old saying: "Build it and they will come". However, if we look like we can't even afford to fix our old sores, who would want to take a chance on Brookneal to set up shop?
I would LOVE to buy a vacant building on Main...I have one in mind, but it's scary when a few buildings down there are places all boarded up and run down. WHO owns these places anyway?
What I'd love to see STOP is all this pompous clickishness that I keep hearing about that is happening in our town government. It's great to be on board in a postition of authority but I think of these positions as SERVANTS of our town. Those who "serve" in these seats should not allow their positions to go to their heads and not work out through their hands. In other words, I observe that some councilmen/women love the limelight but wouldn't think of really working, much less working together.
This nonsense of not notifying everyone who needs to know things, is just insane. A house divided can not stand. That is what I see going on, clicks dividing our SMALL town so that it stagnates in stead of moves forward.
After all, this is NOT WASHINGTON and NOT HOLLYWOOD...so why don't we just cut the crap and see that we are "Brookneal", a very, very small town (and getting smaller due to some of this stuff) who desperately needs people to work together if it is EVER going to get stronger, built up and move forward.
One more thing, Don't these certain councilmen/women who are doing this know that people all over are on to what is going on? I would be embarrassed to go out in public if it were commonly known that I was perpetuating such underhanded and negative actions. After all, what is more important in public life than your reputation? It is something that, once it gets tarnished is very hard to be polished and restored to former luster! I want my epitaph/obit to read that I was an upstanding person who did my best and was fair and kind...not what I've been hearing and reading about now for far too long regarding some of our local "servants".
P.S. I meant "clique", that's what I get for not proofing!
Artsyfartsy wrote:
(interesting name by the way)
>What I'd love to see STOP is all this pompous clickishness that I keep hearing about that is happening in our town government. It's great to be on board in a postition of authority but I think of these positions as SERVANTS of our town. Those who "serve" in these seats should not allow their positions to go to their heads and not work out through their hands. In other words, I observe that some councilmen/women love the limelight but wouldn't think of really working, much less working together.
I don't understand clicks, nor do I participate in them. There is simply no point in being a small town snob, because there is NOTHING to be snobbish about.
I do agree that it is hard to get the council to work together because even when things are pointed out that are absolute requirements by federal law you still get arguements.
The favoritism still exists and there are issues that have been voted on that have never been addressed at the management level.
We have external controls that don't do their job effectively, which makes it harder to impose internal controls.
Lack of communication starts at the highest level and trickles down through the office. I'm an email or phone call away at all times, as are most of the council members, yet half of us are never notified of meetings, problems within the office, problems with residents or anything else. We find out after the fact. My viewpoint on that is if someone wants to control all the segments of the town then they can accept responsibility for all the blame when something goes wrong.
It would be interesting if an outside audit was ever held to see who would accept responsibility if any mistakes were found.
I'm not allowed to make any decisions regarding the office, so it won't be me.
Tracy M
I'd like to see more council members participate here. So far we've had one council person, Ms Mesenbach actually answer questions and give us information.
There isn't any reason why we should not be able to contact the other council members by email, or have them post here.
Good evening to all who enter in. Knowing that this forum is no more trustworthy or honorable than those who participate, I will make every effort afforded me to be of a positive nature in all that I might say. Now, the "redneck" young lady says she is hoping to see participation from more councilpersons here other than Ms. Meisenbach. I'm not sure if this is the place, really,to air issues that one has to take an oath to even begin to with. Each month there is a specific day and time and place , set aside ,to do exactly that, which is attempted here. I do understand that the opportunity to speak unfettered by the bounds of parliamentary procedures gives way to some insights and ideas that might not ever reach the table in council chambers. There is a time and place for every thing, or so it is said. The new technology of computing , internet , "blogging" e-mail and other communication techniques that I have no knowledge of, does give way to another point from the "redneck girl". Maybe we could just sit at our computers and with web cameras and whatever,and have our council meetings "online".Many towns and cities do televise their meetings over the airwaves. More citizens get a "right there perspective" by watching at home. They hear word for word "who said what". Now, to the other statement made concerning Ms. Meisenbach giving actual answers and information of meetings, that can be taken two ways I'm afraid. Some might think it commendable , as I believe "redneck girl" intends, but others may see it as a breech of parliamentary etiquette, "talking out of school" or such. Not an accusation , mind you, just an observation. And lastly, remember, Ms. Meisenbach is one council member and it takes a majority of a quorum to do the towns official business. I do believe that every word she shares here is truthful. But it only serves to inform those , who, for whatever reason do not or can not attend the regular session of council. Also it allows others who have no official authority, to disseminate information in any interpretation they may deem appropriate. All this blabbing and bloggin I've gone thru here tonight proves only one thing. That being, that given the method(a computer online) and the time and impetus, anyone can make a statement that holds a little water. It does one some good I believe to "get it off your chest" at times. But alas, poor Yorick, it does no good down behind them closed council doors. Rock on 2009. Keep the faith. And party on Garth. #1 SOB
anonymous ~
Paragraphs are your friend...really, they are!
;o)
Anonymous ( the first one with the long paragraphs) wrote:
> Now, the "redneck" young lady says she is hoping to see participation from more councilpersons here other than Ms. Meisenbach. I'm not sure if this is the place, really,to air issues that one has to take an oath to even begin to with. Each month there is a specific day and time and place , set aside ,to do exactly that, which is attempted here.
I'd like to remind you, that under the Freedom of Information Act all Brookneal business is open to the public, something that there have been attempts to squash in the past.
> I do understand that the opportunity to speak unfettered by the bounds of parliamentary procedures gives way to some insights and ideas that might not ever reach the table in council chambers.
There is far more that goes on behind the scenes with illegal meetings, threats against employees, poor management that costs the tax payers money and such. Perhaps we should just pull the proverbial carpet back over these things, as you are suggesting, and cover up the problems until they reach the point that the government steps in? Would that suit you? And you above statement shows that you lack even a rudimentary knowledge of parlimentary procedure. Such procedures, set forth in Rbert's Rules of Order involve VOTING. No one here votes to do anything. We discuss. Not only that, we discuss freely the things that concern this community, such as how the money gathered from taxes is spent.
>Many towns and cities do televise their meetings over the airwaves. More citizens get a "right there perspective" by watching at home. They hear word for word "who said what".
You're completely missing the point. Through much trial and error some of the council as learned how to behave at meetings, so the damaging things are no longer said where they end up in the paper. Instead they get said behind closed doors, where they effect the running of this town in adverse ways.
>Now, to the other statement made concerning Ms. Meisenbach giving actual answers and information of meetings, that can be taken two ways I'm afraid. Some might think it commendable , as I believe "redneck girl" intends, but others may see it as a breech of parliamentary etiquette, "talking out of school" or such.
How interesting. So now we're not supposed to say anything to anyone except at a meeting. That's sure going to put a damper on those meeting down at the Golden Skillet that happen just about every morning, or the ones on the steps of the Methodist Church that occur every Sunday. Perhaps you can crawl out of your anonymous hole and go rebuke those people in public, since we don't all get breakfast at the skillet or attend the Methodist Church.
Did I wake up and suddenly find myself in communist China? There is no talking out of school since EVERY record held by this town, with the exception of Personnel records, are open to the public. And even the Personnel records that pertain to payroll and such can be viewed.
>Not an accusation , mind you, just an observation. And lastly, remember, Ms. Meisenbach is one council member and it takes a majority of a quorum to do the towns official business. I do believe that every word she shares here is truthful. But it only serves to inform those , who, for whatever reason do not or can not attend the regular session of council. Also it allows others who have no official authority, to disseminate information in any interpretation they may deem appropriate.
An informed public is one that can build a better community. If you shut off the lines of communication you stymie progress, which of course is what certain sections of this town want. I'd far rather speak out in the open here, then be a part of the back door phone tree that spreads rumors and innuendos, as well as violates federal law about conducting town business via phone polling.
Tracy M
Anonymous,
Looks like another one of Mayor Campbell's secret service people has shown up to squash free speech.
Why am I not surprised?
Looks like we have another person popping up and wanting us to stay silent.
From the ISP they used on their visit I know why. Really people, why do you not just tell your puppet master to step up and post on her own? Don't you get tired of being manipulated?
I, for one, am glad we have at least one council member bold enough to post here and provide information, as well as weather the insults that have been directed at her, mostly by the above mentioned crew.
I have seen nothing posted here that wasn't public information, with the exception of the description of Mr. Hailey's blow up, which Ms Meisenbach did not provide, it was posted by another reader.
Anonymous, your post has served at least one purpose, besides telling me that the Underground Marionette Show is still working. It has told me that this blog serves a verey necessary purpose and that some of the council, and town officials, fear it. So I'm going to make every effort to keep it going, even if only two people read it.
In one sentiment this blog addresses the hope of more participation from others. And then when one "pops" up, you and the consensus attack like pirahna. But have no fear, even with insinuations of your ISP knowledge , and I personally believe that that may be the only knowledge you have , for you seemingly miss completely the point I tried to make. But such is usually the way of all closed minded individuals, who only criticize others and never consider another perspective and the possibility that somewhere along the line you swallowed enough crap spouted here by biased bloggers that now the only perspective you relate to is wrongly based. As to manipulation , it seems that you , "oh great bloggermeister" feel the need to ride roughshod over any opinion that disagrees with your own self-appointed "council" of bellyachers. As to an Underground Marionette Show , I most certainly am as far from being influenced by anyone other than my own conscience as one could be. This is concrete evidence to me that your crystal ball has let you down once again. And by the way, I never said anything to give any impression that I want to see anyone "stay silent". The foam from your raving lips must have gotten in your already blinded eyes. The "purpose" of this blog has no significance , as that was lost among the rant long ago. I must admit, it is rather fun to read and realize, just how misinformed some townsfolk are, but heh! that's how all this started. Oh well , just another round gone down. One day I hope we get to converse face to face. Meanwhile , please be kind to puppies and little kids. I got a feeling you might not be.
Anonymous,
3 Jan 08:054:13 PM
MSIE 7.0
Windows Vista
United States va-71-53-201-97.dhcp.embarqhsd.net (71.53.201.97)
There's a lot more information where that comes from.
The point of your first rant was to accuse any council member that spoke here of "talking out of school".
The purpose of your second rant was to try to cover up the fact that once again the puppeteer's minions have been discovered.
>I must admit, it is rather fun to read and realize, just how misinformed some townsfolk are, but heh! that's how all this started
Since most of the information comes right out of the town office then that says a lot about the people ruling... er governing this town, doesn't it.
By the way Anonymous,
I can also tell you that you've hit this blog 13 times in the last 24 hours, so either you don't have much of a life, or you really are scouting for the Brookneal Underground.
Nice to know you have all that information. I hope you post your own, oh I forgot your afraid for your family.
Your Blog serves no purpose other than entertainment. Nothing is changing here in town.
You go out of your way scare people from posting with your ISP tracking information and I would fear for my family if I didn't know who you were.
I also think your an idiot.
Good job bringing people together and please don't post my ISP as that really does show the type of person you are.
Anonymous,
>Your Blog serves no purpose other than entertainment. Nothing is changing here in town.
It's been entertaining to watch the scrambling at the town office to try to cover up the issues discussed it.
>You go out of your way scare people from posting with your ISP tracking information and I would fear for my family if I didn't know who you were.
If you know then post it. Who am I. Either put up or shut up.
>I also think your an idiot.
I'm not the one telling people to be silent about the administration of this town.
>Good job bringing people together and please don't post my ISP as that really does show the type of person you are.
The ISP wass posted at your request, since you basically challenged me to prove I had the information. If you're going to come here and start a pissing contest then be prepared for people to take you up on it.
By the way, how do you manage to walk around with all those strings on you?
How does Ms. Meisenbach know what goes on at the Methodist church? Or the Golden Skillet? Or Burgers, Shakes and Cream? Sounds like she has her own underground network.
Anonymous,
>How does Ms. Meisenbach know what goes on at the Methodist church? Or the Golden Skillet? Or Burgers, Shakes and Cream? Sounds like she has her own underground network.
Because people call me and tell me what they heard at the Skillet or the church, just dying to spread the gossip. I don't request the info, it simply shows up.
And as other posters here have pointed out, the group out the Skillet talks all the time, and about every topic.
Tracy M
Mr Anonymous
I'm in the skillet just about every morning and I've heard more stuffa bout what happens in the town office there, then I ever read from the paper.
Doesn't take an underground network to know it. If you weren't being such a jerk and trying to get people to quit reading the blog then maybe you'd learn something about this town.
and people wonder why this town is going downhill. when the administration has henchmen that are as stupid as ms anonymous-keeper of the dewey decimal system-there isn't any wonder why we're dying.
come one ms anonymous, tell the rest of us who the blogger is, i'm interested in knowing, so i can personally go over and shake his hand for starting it up.
Pity there isn't an IQ test before people can post, or Ms Anonymous wouldn't be able to bother the rest of the readers of the blog.
Not surprised your are editing comments.
Hello Redneck Girl,
Can you tell me what IQ stands for without Google, you are not as smart as you think you are. Are you?
Anonymous,
Shows what you know, you can't edit comments on blogger. You can only delete them. And I have never deleted anyone's comments.
So who needs to look up what IQ means?
What a dork you are Anonymous. IQ means Intelligence Quotient. It was a term created by William Stern.
You must have missed that day at school.
And you can't edit blogger posts. If you make a mistake you have to delete them and start all over.
So the mistakes in your posts belong to your own stupidity, quit trying to pretend that someone else created them.
Anonymous,
>I want my epitaph/obit to read that I was an upstanding person who did my best and was fair and kind...not what I've been hearing and reading about now for far too long regarding some of our local "servants".
Don't you want it to say:
"And she loved Geppetto with all her heart"
i'm still waiting to hear who the blogger is.
don't you owe it to the rest of the citizens of brookneal to keep us informed?
Brookneal Blogger traced your tracking cookies for your "IQ" search Redneck Girl.
>IQ means Intelligence Quotient. It was a term created by William Stern.
(Not her post,but so appropriate)
Brookneal Blogger:
Tuffy Horse said...
Gee Anonymous, talk about people who don't stand up to the mirror, where's your real name? Instead you're just bashing behind a fake identity because you don't have the back bone to use your real name. You're the cartoon.
Anonymous,
You cannot edit any of the comment posts. I've been on blogger practically since it started. The only thing that can be edited is the main page. None of the personal comments can be altered in any way, other than deleting the entire comment.
Now that little education tidbit aside I'm curious was to what "talking out of school" you seem to think I've done here. I've reviewed all of my comments and there isn't anything in any of them that wasn't already common knowledge or was soon published in the newspaper.
So what is this great secret I supposedly revealed here?
And you can't track someone's search cookies from a blog. Please tell us you aren't that computer illiterate.
Tracy M
"Terms and Conditions" for Google do allow them to track "cookies".
Not computer literate but do it everyday. Not being a smartass.
If you have a concern or wish to file a complaint of a user posting ISP information please contact...
http://www.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=privacy
Anonymous,
>"Terms and Conditions" for Google do allow them to track "cookies".
>Not computer literate but do it everyday. Not being a smartass.
That's Google, not me. I cannot track what someone does on their own computer, I can only track when someone comes to this page. And you're more of a dumbass than a smartass.
Oh gee, Anonymous, you challenge someone to get your info and now you threaten to report them because they do.
How typical of the people you support.
If it pains you you so to read here then stay away and read you little hometown manifesto instead.
>Brookneal Blogger said...
Anonymous,
3 Jan 08:054:13 PM
MSIE 7.0
Windows Vista
United States va-71-53-201-97.dhcp.embarqhsd.net (71.53.201.97)
There's a lot more information where that comes from.
What other information do you have then?
>And you're more of a dumbass than a smartass.
Educated?
Anonymous,
You just posted your own ISP information, are you going to report yourself?
We're all still waiting for you to post who I am.
I would like to think of myself as more of a smartass than a dumbass.
Maybe, before you head out on Monday you'll realize your mistake.
It's a shame others won't, but we will.
Next step is how do we improve the Town.
The Council is not the rise and fall of us.
Take some ownwership.
Oh, one more thing. There not your step-children and she's still just a girlfriend.
Anonymous
>I would like to think of myself as more of a smartass than a dumbass.
You'd be wrong
>Maybe, before you head out on Monday you'll realize your mistake.
Who says I'm heading anywhere? I'm on vacation.
>It's a shame others won't, but we will.
Don't include me with your collective "we", I'm not that stupid.
>Next step is how do we improve the Town.
The Council is not the rise and fall of us.
Take some ownwership.
We demand that the Mayor quit playing favorites and actually push for a new town manager.
>Oh, one more thing. There not your step-children and she's still just a girlfriend.
You know nothing about my personal life, as your stupid statement above shows.
Brookneal Blogger said:
>Two) I don't want my girlfriend or her children affected by my blog. They have family and friends here, and the children go to school here. Brookneal is hard on outsiders coming in as it is, no need to give it an excuse to be meaner.
Three) I want to be able to speak freely. And I want people who read the blog to be able to speak freely, which is why I don't require a google account to post here.
I'm glad you stopped by and hope you will continue to contribute.<
Do you really want them to speak freely? I think not.
Jus' to complete the point.
Brookneal Blogger said:
>WTF are you talking about that I'm trying to appear "better than" the populace of this small town. Being concerned about drunks and litter is universal. If the "populace" of this small town is offended because someone doesn't want their step kids exposed to such trash then they can get used to being offended, because I'm not going to tolerate it.
September 4, 2008 7:09 PM<
Lets see if you can twist this to include the soldiers in Iraq.
Anonymous,
You are now offering positive proof that you reside in a petrie dish where nothing ever changes.
People's lives do not remaine static, things can change from one moment to the next.
I hope no one planning on moving here is reading your posts, or they are going to think we're all idiots.
I agree with the comment about people passing by forming an opinion.
I was just looking for information on Patrick Henry and found this blog. Looks like you've got problems in your little town, I hope you get them solved.
Tuffy Horse, I enjoyed reading your blog too. I've always loved horses, wish I could have one.
I hope all of you get your problems fixed, before I ever come visit.
Hayley Everwood
Brookneal Blogger said:
>Took the GF out for Mother's Day, she's not my mom ( I'm not that strange) but she has intentions of being one some day, so I figured the practice wouldn't hurt. <
Got it, new girlfriend since May.
Really Anonymous,
You completely missed the point, which doesn't surprise me.
He was saying he might have gotten married, so she's no longer a girlfriend, but a wife.
And if you have enough time to dig through the posts since last May then you should be doing something more productive towards bettering this town, instead of picking fights with the people that are trying to make a difference, and spreading crap about your posts being altered by the blogger.
Tracy M
Tuffy
I didn't miss the point,I do think he missed my point.
>Took the GF out for Mother's Day, she's not my mom ( I'm not that strange) but she has intentions of being one some day
>I don't want my girlfriend or her children affected by my blog.
He may have in fact married his most recent GF , I don't know.
Do you really think this blog serves any purpose to better the town. I only wish someone without the same tactics as the controling council had a blog without attacking someone that thinks differently than he does.
It also served no purpose whatsoever to post someones ISP info because he took it as a challenge which if you read the post, it was not. You should know better than most that nothings changes here and am certain the council, in whatever form will wait you out. Try being friends with your co-council instead of taking the moral/legal high ground and bashing them.
Make friends to influence people.
Wait til' Hayley Everwood actually sees the town.
You mean Hayley is coming to town?
Come on down and join the fun.
Its just like that soap; "All My Children", except most of the family tree's here have few branches.
Girl, do like I did when I first came to Brookneal, and bring the following items;
AR-15 Assault Rifle-308 Caliber,
Ear Plugs (or Bull S*** protector, as they're called in Brookneal)
Penicillin,
2 Pit Bulls,
A gallon of Moonshine,
A gross of pacifiers (for all the cry babies),
2 diapers,(1 for coming into town, 1 for when you leave)
and a top notch psychiatrist!
Otherwise you'll never be the same.
LOL
Now lighten up people, and please change the topic from; "Happy Holidays to Brookneal" to something more "pleasant".
You folks seem to get nasty around what should be the most joyous time of the year.
If this is "Happy", I'd hate to see "Pissed Off" in Brookneal!
No wonder Brookneal is sucking down the drain............you bunch of Scrooge's!
Why is this blog posting on Pacific Time?
Tuffy Horse said:
>And if you have enough time to dig through the posts since last May then you should be doing something more productive towards bettering this town, instead of picking fights with the people that are trying to make a difference, and spreading shit
about your posts being altered by the blogger.<
Surprised at your language(LOL)
Paraphase or Edit
Tuffey Horse of course did not curse and the above comment read as follows:
>And if you have enough time to dig through the posts since last May then you should be doing something more productive towards bettering this town, instead of picking fights with the people that are trying to make a difference, and spreading crap about your posts being altered by the blogger.<
Shall I continue with BB's paraphrasing?
Oh the reason the post are on Pacific time in because not only does the Mayor have here finger on the corrupt registars office(Paraphasing BB) she has been able to have her puppets change the time to confuse you.
Anonymous,
>Try being friends with your co-council instead of taking the moral/legal high ground and bashing them.
Make friends to influence people.
You really do come off as a nut.
No friendship, no blood relationship, no one is above legal high ground. I am not about to lie or break the law to serve ANYONE on the council. The fact that you think such a course of action is okay shows how morally corrupt you are.
I don't play favorites. I abide by the legal requirements of state and federal code and I always will. If that means that some of my co-council members don't think I'm being friendly then too bad.
And no one has edited or paraphrased my posts. They go in just like I write them. So your implication that they are altered is a flat out lie.
Tracy M
Anonymous,
>Oh the reason the post are on Pacific time in because not only does the Mayor have here finger on the corrupt registars office(Paraphasing BB) she has been able to have her puppets change the time to confuse you.
Seriously, back away from the computer until you learn how to use one.
The posts time are on Pacific time because Google is in California.
Tracy M
Anonymous,
Why would you want a town official that is willing for the law to be broken, or look the other way, to have any governing power over this town?
You acted like "speaking out of school" was such a crime, but then you advocate turning a blind eye t legal and moral matters, just to be friends with other council members.
We don't elect "friends" we electe people that will serve the community and that means abiding by the law.
Redneck Girl,
Thank you for my next topic.
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